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XXIII (Maur. 36)

Ambrosius Orontiano.

1. Concatenatur sibi epistulae nostrae, ut tamquam inter praesentes videamur sermonem caedere; ita ego ex tua interrogatione tuque ex mea explanatione epistulis scribendis materiam damus.

2. Moveri enim te indicasti, de quo spiritu dictum sit quia "postulat pro nobis gemitibus inenarrabilibus". [...]

In what follows, Ambrose continues his theological and exegetical commentary.

6. [...] Vale et nos ut filius dilige, quia nos te diligimus.

(ed. Faller 1968: 167-170)

XXIII (Maur. 36)

Ambrose to Orontianus.

1. Our letters are forming a chain and we seem to be letting the chips fly in the presence of one another. I get the material for my letter-writing from your questioning, and you get yours from my explanations.

2. You have pointed out that you wonder of what spirit it was said: "Because he pleads for us with unutterable groaninig". [...]

In what follows, Ambrose continues his theological and exegetical commentary.

6. [...] Farewell, and as a son love us, because we love you.

(trans. Beyenka 1954: 283-285; in the translation Letter 53)

Discussion:

The present letter, a continuation of Letter 21 [1881] and Letter 22 [1906], is not dated and it can only be said that it was written at some point during the episcopacy of Ambrose. For Orontianus ecclesiastical status see discussion in [1874].

Place of event:

Region

Italy north of Rome with Corsica and Sardinia

City

Milan

About the source:

Author: Ambrose of Milan
Title: Letters, Epistulae
Origin: Milan (Italy north of Rome with Corsica and Sardinia)
Denomination: Catholic/Nicene/Chalcedonian

Ambrose was a bishop of Milan from 374 until his death in 397. We have a collection of his letters organized in three parts. The first one consists of 77 letters organized in ten books most probably by Ambrose himself. He published his letters at some point after the death of Theodosius in 395. From this collection, Book 4 is missing, as are some letters of Books 2 and 4. The second part is the group of letters that survived outside the collection (extra collectionem), and the third is a group of letters concerning the council of Aquileia in 381 (together with the acts of this council). For a detailed discussion on the letters and further reading see Liebeschuetz 2010: 27–48 and Nauroy 2016: 146–160.

Edition:

O. Faller ed., Epistulae et acta, epistularum libri I-VI, Corpus Scriptorum Ecclesiasticorum Lationorum 82/1, Wien 1968

Translation:

Saint Ambrose, Letters, trans. M. M. Beyenka, Washington D.C. 1954

Bibliography:

J.H.W.G. Liebeschuetz, Ambrose of Milan: political letters and speeches, Liverpool 2010.

J.-P. Mazières, "Les lettres d’Ambroise de Milan à Irenaeus.”, Pallas. Revue d’études antiques 26 (1973), 103–114.

G. Nauroy, "The Letter Collection of Ambrose of Milan", [in:] Late Antique Letter Collections: A Critical Introduction and Reference Guide, ed. C. Sogno, B.K. Storin, E.J. Watts, Oakland, CA 2016, 146–160.

G. Nauroy, "Édition et organisation du recueil des lettres d’Ambroise de Milan: une architecture cachée ou altérée?", in: La correspondance d'Ambroise de Milan, textes réunis et préparés par A. Canellis, Saint-Étienne 2012, 19-61.

J.-R. Palanque, "Deux correspondants de saint Ambroise: Orontien et Irénée”, Revue des Études Latines 11 (1933), 153–163.

A. Paredi, S. Ambrogio e la sua età, Milano 1960.

Categories:

Writing activity - Correspondence

PR851.

Reverenced by

PR851.

Relation with - Bishop/Monastic superior

PR851.

Education - Theological interest

PR851.

Devotion - Reading the Bible and devotional literature

PR851.

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